FVE ostrov 1020 Wp - Sobrance

[diablo007]

Tak na to aby se měnič prepl na ds nepotřebuješ automatiku nastavis napětí baterií kdy se přepne to předpokládám že asi i nastavené máš. A zrovna u lionek měření soc není až tak komplikované mají slušný lineární průběh takže pokud z tvých 3 dvě uděláš jednu pro důležité technologie a ta si bude vždy udržovat dostatečně nabité baterie a přebytek popřípadě bude PWM regulátorem dotovat baterie dalšího systému máš základ pro přežití daný a zbylé dvě ať se tedy starají o těžbu s ne životně důležité věci někdy to jde jednodušeji

[rottenkiwi]

U nás to je s odstupom 10 min.
Lenže niekedy sú oblaky, ale neprší.
A niekedy prší a panely dávajú viac ako keď neprší.

[dumi]

My tahame pro řízení tepelnych čerpadel předpověď od Noru pres API. Tuším ze tam je i oblačnost. Tuhle část programoval kolega, mužů se ho zeptat jestli chceš.

[rottenkiwi]

https://api.met.no/
Toto ?

[ecentrum]

A předpověď z Forecast? jaké jsou zkušenosti?
http://wp2.pvforecast.cz/

[volente]

Automatika ano, ale proboha jen to nepřehánět. Co tam nebude, nemůže se pokazit. V jednoduchosti je síla. Panely, regulátor, baterka, měnič. 2, max. 3 napěťová relé jako vytěžovače a možná proudové relé jako přednostní při souběhu žroutů.
Jeden měřák na DC a jeden na AC. Systém odladit a klidně jedu na 14 dní na dovolenou. I bez dálkové správy a dohledu.

[rottenkiwi]

A čo sa stane, keď bude 14 dní mrholiť alebo pršať ?
Vypadne DS, meniče vybijú LiFe a LiIon a čo bude nasledovať ?
Rozpad Cu current kolektora, rozpad anódy, nabobtnanie anódy = známe nafuknutie Winstonov,
nová SEI = zvýšený odpor článkov, ani 20 A balencér to potom nedá dokopy
nie to ešte chorý človek, čo príde z nemocnice na priepustku.

[diablo007]

A čo sa stane, keď bude 14 dní mrholiť alebo pršať ?
Vypadne DS, meniče vybijú LiFe a LiIon a čo bude nasledovať ?
Rozpad Cu current kolektora, rozpad anódy, nabobtnanie anódy = známe nafuknutie Winstonov,
nová SEI = zvýšený odpor článkov, ani 20 A balencér to potom nedá dokopy
nie to ešte chorý človek, čo príde z nemocnice na priepustku.

Pokud vypnes nesmyslné zařízení jako minery a topení na 27 stupňů tak tvůj systém pojede dál onehda jsinosalnze lednici utáhne 30dni. A pokud máš srozuměn nastavené napětí při kterém se měniče odpojí neni důvod aby to baterky poslal na hřbitov

[KubisKV]

A čo sa stane, keď bude 14 dní mrholiť alebo pršať ?
Vypadne DS, meniče vybijú LiFe a LiIon a čo bude nasledovať ?
Rozpad Cu current kolektora, rozpad anódy, nabobtnanie anódy = známe nafuknutie Winstonov,
nová SEI = zvýšený odpor článkov, ani 20 A balencér to potom nedá dokopy
nie to ešte chorý človek, čo príde z nemocnice na priepustku.

Když není doma nikdo, tak snad i odběr je o dost menší. jediné co jede nonstop je lednice, mrazák. ostatní věci jsou snad jen v pohotovostním režimu a v nepřítomnosti obsluhy nejsou potřeba.
Co se stane, když bude mrholit 3 měsíce a DS nevypadne?

TAŠKOŠLAP mne předběhl. díky diablo, je vidět, že jsme se v chatce spřátelili

[diablo007]

A čo sa stane, keď bude 14 dní mrholiť alebo pršať ?
Vypadne DS, meniče vybijú LiFe a LiIon a čo bude nasledovať ?
Rozpad Cu current kolektora, rozpad anódy, nabobtnanie anódy = známe nafuknutie Winstonov,
nová SEI = zvýšený odpor článkov, ani 20 A balencér to potom nedá dokopy
nie to ešte chorý človek, čo príde z nemocnice na priepustku.

Když není doma nikdo, tak snad i odběr je o dost menší. jediné co jede nonstop je lednice, mrazák. ostatní věci jsou snad jen v pohotovostním režimu a v nepřítomnosti obsluhy nejsou potřeba.
Co se stane, když bude mrholit 3 měsíce a DS nevypadne?

TAŠKOŠLAP mne předběhl. díky diablo, je vidět, že jsme se v chatce spřátelili

To těžko s takovým drzounem

[rottenkiwi]

No vidím, že nemáte ani najmenší šajn o čom točím.
Stále točíte nezmysly o mineroch a o klíme na 27 *C.

Ja sa pýtam, či je niekto schopný mi naprogramovať FVE tak,
aby tam bola redundancia akú mám, a aby, ked po napr. troch mesiacoch
a von -25 *C, prídem domov a nie som si schopný sám zakúriť
v dosledku zlého zdrav. stavu, či ma bude čakať temperovaná jedna izba,
pojde kamerový systém, pojde net, pojde záložný mobilný net.

Ak toho nie ste schopní, tak aspoň poraďte, ako to naprogramovať.

A ak ani toho nie ste schopní, tak nekomentujete priblblými komentmi,
že sa nemám snažiť o prežitie, keď mi to hlúpa a nenápomocná societa,
znemožňuje ako sa len dá.

[KubisKV]

O klimě ani minerech jsem nemluvil, ale ještě jeden blbý komentář si neodpustim. Nemůžu za nemoc ani tvou a ani nikoho jiného. Pokud člověk kvůli zdravotnímu stavu neví jestli zítra nebude muset zůstat na lůžku v nemocnici a na jakou dobu, tak by neměl mít domácí zvířata, systém vyžadující stálý dohled a ostatní věci na něm závislý. Jestli jsi na tom jak uvidíš výše, doporucuju systém při odchodu do nemocnice vypnout a nechat jen slunce, ať baterie dobije pokud svítí. Já když nebudu x týdnů doma v zimě asi budu mít větší starost o vodu, aby nezamrzla, topení aby nepopraskalo, ale abych si vynucoval internet a záložní internet mne vůbec nenapadlo. Jo a s tím vykůrením jednej izby bych asi musel poprosit souseda,
Když budu doma chovat nějaké zvíře, tak taky by ho musel někdo nakrmit. Arduino bohužel neumím naprogramovat.
Nechci se tě kiwi dotknout a ani nezlehčuju tvou situaci, ale zkus se na své požadavky kouknout trochu jinak a lidsky.
Pokud vypadne DS a panely zapadají sněhem, tak asi nikdo nemá doma jaderný záložní zdroj aby si kůril v izbe a měl umělou inteligenci na chod domácnosti.

[dumi]

Pises ze nemuzes pracovat, ale polejvat panely behem.dne vodou z kyblu a ometat je ano?

Stejne tak ze jezdis v noci na kole, protoze ti vadi slunce, takze ty paneky chladis kdyz je zamraceno a prsi?

To mi hlava nebere...

[rottenkiwi]

Čo tu nie je na pochopenie ?
Ak som v nemocnici, nie je nič doležitejšie ako energia a funkčný net,
lebo v prípade potreby, tam pošlem políciu.
Ak nemám zdroj energie a funkčný net, tak
si možem rovno poslať dum-dum do hlavy, lebo mi všetko dnu aj von rozkradnú,
treba sa na svet dívať trochu realisticky.

A ak po elektrošokoch prídem domov a nebudem mať na zaplatenie DS a plynu,
aby som si zakúril gamatkami alebo klímou, tak mi ostane, jedine moj
dopredu naprogramovaný systém, ktorý mi v prípade, ak nemožem
ani prejsť 4 m z postele na WC pomože s topením a svetlom.

Zjavne žijete všetci mimo reality a nikdy ste neboli na elektrošokoch.

Samozrejme ,že si nikto ako 5 či 10 ročný nemože sposobiť psychické ochorenie sám,
ale robí to okolie exprimáciou génov, pričom predispozícia sa bez okolia nezmení naochorenie,
to učia na základnej škole v boiľogii, psych. och. sa NEDEDÍ.

Stačí 24 W Laing a 4 m2 H2O a panely sa chladia, .. a od prachu sa dajú opláchnuť aj večer alebo
ráno, keď Slnko ešte nevyšlo.

Mne nevadí SLnko, vadí mojmu IL17 a methotrexátu. Ked budeš mať rakovinu, pochopíš.
Keď budeš mať kamene v obličkách od valproátu tiež pochopíš.

Neviem pochopiť jak možete byť všetci tak nevzdelaní v chémii a biológii ?
To ste nechodili na medicínu alebo ste sa tam nedostali ?

Potrebujem 2000 riakov kódu a nikto nič, zase banda nevzdelancov ?

[dumi]

Príp. ešte Push správy, alebo email alebo SMS, ak je FVE mimo def. parametrov ?

tohle mam vyresene pres program Telegram,da se tam pres API posilat zpravy, takze mi staci jen odeslat jeden GET pozadavaek na spravne zadavnou adresu serveru a na mobil mi prijde zprava. zdarma rychle, v mobilu potrebujes jen telegram a data.

pripadne to jde pres email, sms v dnesni dobe bude mozna orisek, ale mozna jsou tale nejake free GSM brany jako tomu bylo na prelomu tisicileti

[josse]

Vrátím se k poslednímu technickému tématu ...
Předpovídat vlastní počasí z webkamer je blbost (můj názor). Když už mám internet, a je mizerné počasí, asi bude lepší nejen šetřit el. ale také data (když budu mít záložní GSM tak určitě).
na některé předpovědi se dá s vysokou pravděpodobností spolehnout (Aladin, to z čeho čerpá klára, ...)
API myslím, zvěřejněné je asi u všech kdo má aplikaci v obchodě.

Do arduina bych se s tímhle nepouštěl, šáhnul bych po malině a pythonu, nebo MQQT.

Myslím že krásné příklady jsou právě spojeny s MQQT, například:
https://community.openhab.org/t/importi ... ding/59147

Tohle by mělo jít relativně snadno dostat i do megy.

[rottenkiwi]

Vďaka za rady. Idem sa pustiť do práce. Bude to dlhá noc.

[rottenkiwi]

Kód: Vybrat vše

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</weatherdata> 

Získal som xml, čo s tým ?

[dumi]

Rozparsovat a koukal bych na tagy:

<cloudiness id="NN" percent="100.0"/>
<fog id="FOG" percent="0.0"/>
<lowClouds id="LOW" percent="96.1"/>
<mediumClouds id="MEDIUM" percent="96.9"/>
<highClouds id="HIGH" percent="100.0"/>

[rottenkiwi]

Kód: Vybrat vše

 <pressure id="pr" unit="hPa" value="1028.9"/>
            <cloudiness id="NN" percent="92.2"/>
            <fog id="FOG" percent="0.0"/>
            <lowClouds id="LOW" percent="92.2"/>
            <mediumClouds id="MEDIUM" percent="0.0"/>
            <highClouds id="HIGH" percent="0.0"/>

<pressure id="pr" unit="hPa" value="1028.9"/>
            <cloudiness id="NN" percent="47.7"/>
            <fog id="FOG" percent="0.0"/>
            <lowClouds id="LOW" percent="47.7"/>
            <mediumClouds id="MEDIUM" percent="0.0"/>
            <highClouds id="HIGH" percent="0.0"/

 <pressure id="pr" unit="hPa" value="1028.8"/>
            <cloudiness id="NN" percent="43.0"/>
            <fog id="FOG" percent="0.0"/>
            <lowClouds id="LOW" percent="43.0"/>
            <mediumClouds id="MEDIUM" percent="0.0"/>
            <highClouds id="HIGH" percent="0.0"/>

    <pressure id="pr" unit="hPa" value="1028.8"/>
            <cloudiness id="NN" percent="35.9"/>
            <fog id="FOG" percent="0.0"/>
            <lowClouds id="LOW" percent="35.9"/>
            <mediumClouds id="MEDIUM" percent="0.0"/>
            <highClouds id="HIGH" percent="0.0"/>

    <pressure id="pr" unit="hPa" value="1028.6"/>
            <cloudiness id="NN" percent="38.3"/>
            <fog id="FOG" percent="0.0"/>
            <lowClouds id="LOW" percent="38.3"/>
            <mediumClouds id="MEDIUM" percent="0.0"/>
            <highClouds id="HIGH" percent="0.0"/>

 <pressure id="pr" unit="hPa" value="1028.4"/>
            <cloudiness id="NN" percent="75.0"/>
            <fog id="FOG" percent="0.0"/>
            <lowClouds id="LOW" percent="75.0"/>
            <mediumClouds id="MEDIUM" percent="0.0"/>
            <highClouds id="HIGH" percent="0.0"/>

   <pressure id="pr" unit="hPa" value="1028.1"/>
            <cloudiness id="NN" percent="96.1"/>
            <fog id="FOG" percent="0.0"/>
            <lowClouds id="LOW" percent="96.1"/>
            <mediumClouds id="MEDIUM" percent="0.0"/>
            <highClouds id="HIGH" percent="0.0"/>

Na zajtra od 7:00 do 14:00 to bude pravd. takto:
Ako teda dnes vybiť baterky, na aký SOC, ak predpoveď
je ako vyššie ? Na 30 alebo 50 % ?

Keďže najmenej mrakov bude od 8:00 do 12:00,
na aký azimut natočiť panely a aký sklon zvoliť ?

Ako prepočítať Low clouds : x Medium clouds : y High cloud : z
na celkový hodinový výnos FVE : w ?

x * Wp * cx + y * Wp * cy + z * Wp * cz = w